Sunday, 3 August 2014

NKF Behaviour

NKF Dummy Spit
AN EXPLANATION :The Post below about the NKF was first published in June but has recently been removed by Blogger after complaints from NKF. If you make a complaint to Blogger about a Blog Post  - and its very easy to do - Blogger ( i.e. Google ) automatically removes the Post because they do not want to be held liable in any way for publication of defamatory or pornographic or in other ways actionable material on the Internet. They do not waste their time trying to decide if the complainant has a case, but rely on complaints being made in good faith.

The people or person who operates the Ned Kelly Forum has used this facility to try to remove this Post about the NKF from my blog on three separate occasions but has NEVER attempted to explain to me or to blogger exactly what the problem is. This I am certain is because he knows there is nothing actionable in the Post -  he is just abusing the process that is in place to protect individuals from malicious behaviour on the Internet, as a means to censor legitimate comment, criticism and discussion about his web site. If he had legitimate criticisms or wanted to defend his Forum, the Invitation made at the bottom of this post to make a comment remains available to him, but his failure to do so proves his complaints to Blogger are not made in good faith.

Here is the Post :  


In my deleted forum, I had planned to present an overview of the various Internet Sites that currently exist, as a sort of Guide to what was available out there and what to watch out for. So I shall start again.

One of the easiest to find using your search engine is of course the Ned Kelly Forum, a place set up within the last couple of years. The Clue to what you will find there is contained on the welcome page, where the NKF is described as "Pro" Ned Kelly and a "celebration to the Legend". The Forum contains many discussions about a large variety of topics that are mostly peripheral to the core elements of the Kelly story, such things as members favourite Kelly songs, books and movies, discussions about the annual Ned Kelly Weekend at Beechworth, and items that appear in the news from time to time.

The most recent discussions have been about some old gates that were purported to have come from the old Melbourne gaol, the site of Neds execution. In fact as the material presented makes clear, there is not a scrap of evidence linking the gates to the Old Melbourne gaol and nobody has any idea where they came from. The source of that claim has been completely discredited because it also said the gates were erected in 1937 when in fact they were erected in 1930. Never-the-less the post is entitled "Old Melbourne Gaol gates at the Frankston Oval" and a couple of members seem to think that this has now been established and heartily thanked the person who brought this to their attention. Having said all that, it was an interesting discussion that showed how rumours and misinformation can be incorporated into accepted history, and that very careful research is needed to uncover the truth. This is a lesson that I think most of the NKF will have missed but is very relevant to the search for the truth about all historical claims, and no less important in the search for the real Ned Kelly.


The Gates at the Frankston Oval
In addition to the publicly accessible threads they have a Private Members Only thread not accessible to non-members . Security and the identity of members is a preoccupation of the people who run the site, and recently everyone was forced to change their passwords because it was thought that someone leaked another members phone number. Anyone who didn't change their password was immediately relegated to the status of Contributor rather than Member and would no longer have access to the secret Members Only area.






To me this preoccupation with identity and with secrecy seems quite paranoid. It is clear from the History of the site that members with alternative viewpoints are quickly set upon by the resident Bully and either resign or get expelled. There was a thread devoted to the Kelly Gang Unmasked book when it was first released but contributors who defended the book - as I would have - were expelled, and the thread removed, but there are still traces of what happened to be found at various places. For that sort of reason, and also because of the sort of vile attacks on me and other posters to my forum made online by NKF members in the past, I would never consider joining such a Forum where people who have been proven to be vile internet pests can have free access to my identity and email. In my previous Forum I described the NKF as the North Korea of the Kelly World - and I still see it as an apt description, because it is a place where there is expected to be unquestioning acceptance and devotion to the dear Leader, a readiness to censor, delete and expel dissidence, a deep fear and distrust of "outsiders" and a rigid enforcement of ideology to keep the world of the NKF calm and free of controversy. Its worth a visit, but after a while the endless back slapping and hearty birthday wishes and trivial discussions becomes tedious.

POST SCRIPT: 
NKF HAS MADE A THIRD COMPLAINT  TO BLOGGER.COM ABOUT AN ALLEGED INFRINGEMENT OF COPYRIGHT IN THIS POST. AFTER THE FIRST COMPLAINT, I REMOVED AN IMAGE THAT WAS ALSO USED ON THE NKF SITE, BUT THERE IS NO OTHER CONTENT ON THIS PAGE THAT COULD IN ANY WAY BE REGARDED AS REPRESENTING AN INFRINGEMENT OF ANY SORT OF COPYRIGHT OWNED BY NKF. THIS BLOG POST IS PERSONAL OPINION, AND LEGITIMATE COMMENTARY ON MATERIAL THAT IS IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN.  IF YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE OPINION OR A GENUINE COMPLAINT ABOUT SOMETHING WRITTEN THEN YOU MAY VOICE IT IN THE COMMENT BOX BELOW AND I WILL ADDRESS IT. THE TACTIC OF TRYING TO REMOVE AND CENSOR OPEN DISCUSSION , FREQUENTLY USED BY KELLY PEOPLE TO REMOVE BLOGS, FORUMS AND INTERNET DISCUSSIONS THAT THEY DISAGREE WITH IS NOT GOING TO SUCCEED. ALL YOU ARE DOING IS REINFORCING THE NKF-NORTH KOREA ANALOGY AND FURTHER TRASHING YOUR CREDIBILITY. 

I REPEAT : IF YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE OPINION OR A GENUINE COMPLAINT ABOUT SOMETHING WRITTEN THEN YOU MAY VOICE IT IN THE COMMENT BOX BELOW AND I WILL ADDRESS IT.

1 comment:

  1. What a Deeceitfull lot of crap

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1. Moderation is back on. I haven’t got time to be constantly monitoring what comments are made and deleting the mindless rubbish that Kelly sympathisers have been posting lately. Please post polite sensible comments, avoid personal abuse and please use the same name whenever you Post, even if its a made-up name.


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