tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post654215821591969477..comments2024-01-19T04:32:25.260+11:00Comments on Ned Kelly : Death of the Legend: Fact Checking the Kelly Story Deehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14104818673788818740noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-64377857129442182022018-02-07T23:48:49.289+11:002018-02-07T23:48:49.289+11:00Yes, several of us have files. I have to be carefu...Yes, several of us have files. I have to be careful here not to telegraph what we intend to do about this and several other matters. But I have taken on board your advice. Thanks!Roynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-46792996993159281662018-02-05T07:08:19.078+11:002018-02-05T07:08:19.078+11:00Roy, if you have evidence of this such as screen s...Roy, if you have evidence of this such as screen shots and any way of contacting MacFarlane, perhaps through his publisher, you should provide him with this evidence and advise him to contact the (Victorian) Commission for Children and Young People. A complaint can be lodged for child stalking and online harassment of a child. They will advise what next steps are available, and whether they can assist in the specific case. Historical abuse is within the power of the Commission for Children and Young People to investigate. After the Royal Commission into Child Abuse, such complaints are taken very seriously, as they should be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-45071268693316028492018-02-04T22:20:07.638+11:002018-02-04T22:20:07.638+11:00I agree with Dee that ii iis detestable to bully t...I agree with Dee that ii iis detestable to bully the young Kelly child.<br /><br />The fellow who runs the FB Hate Page against the MacFarlane book contacted the grand-daughter of the author in a way that would be frowned on today. Foolishly he kept tabs on her on-line activities and later used this in his posts. Noone would have been any the wiser had he not done so. <br /><br />So there are vilenessea and repulsiveness on both sides unfortunately.Roynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-46405146372423457502018-02-04T21:30:32.784+11:002018-02-04T21:30:32.784+11:00To answer your specific question about 'waging...To answer your specific question about 'waging this cruel campaign against this family' I would have to say the family is not any kind of target in any of this. The 'target' is the historical narrative around the Kelly Outbreak, which as its currently promoted by 'sympathisers' and by descendants is riddled with unhistorical claims, demonstrably false and incomplete accounts of events and the unsustainable promotion of Ned Kelly as some sort of hero. <br /><br />The bullying of your 8 year old granddaughter is deplorable behaviour and cannot be condoned or tolerated under any circumstance. As I wrote elsewhere the answer is not to try to eliminate every possible trigger that a bully might be able to use against her, but make it very clear to the bully that that sort of behaviour, bullying and victimising is always completely unacceptable and won't ever be tolerated. The bully is the problem not your granddaughter. Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14104818673788818740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-48386052926037198502018-02-04T08:17:13.577+11:002018-02-04T08:17:13.577+11:00Some of the Kelly descendants have a kind of sick ...Some of the Kelly descendants have a kind of sick pride in being related to the Kelly gang and like telling everyone about it. Maybe they should shut up. No one would know Paul O'K was descended from the Harts if he didn't keep telling everyone about it like it was a great thing. Mike Munroe told how he was descended from the Kenniffs and his family changed the surname to avoid the association. The Griffiths are in the papers every year saying how Ned Kelly was a hero and trying to get money for a Ned Kelly Centre. This is bad news for the descendants of the victims. Lest we forget.T.S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-83651757962048078882018-02-03T22:14:27.668+11:002018-02-03T22:14:27.668+11:00Aren't you actually the bully? You are attacki...Aren't you actually the bully? You are attacking people who are real and had real families. My eight year old granddaaughter is bullied at school because she is a Kelly. Do you see her as a Kelly sympathiser who deserves to be bullied? You are so cruel. We don't attack you or your family. How are you connected to the family? If you check out Trove you will find that none of the hews paper articles supported the Kellys. They were written from a British perspective so how did they perpetuate the so called myth.Even when they reported on those who were arrested as sympathisers they did not make it clear that many of those named were related to the Kellys and were arrested because they were related and later freed. There was no myth perpetrated in the newspapers of the day. Why have you chosen this particular family to wage a campaign against? Does supporting your family make you a bigot? Again can you explain why you are waging this cruel campaign against this family Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-50030025963595991402018-01-19T23:02:03.442+11:002018-01-19T23:02:03.442+11:00Fact check: The largest number of sympathiser “fri...Fact check: The largest number of sympathiser “friends” given in the press is 300, in December 1878; Fitzsimons misread this as 800, and then claimed with no evidence that “there are said to be some 2000 in North-Eastern Victoria alone” (O&M, 14 December 1878, 4; Peter Fitzsimons, Ned Kelly, 301, 388). HahahahaGeronimonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-19095631528615672322018-01-12T18:41:26.266+11:002018-01-12T18:41:26.266+11:00Yes I am afraid that is true for many of the die-h...Yes I am afraid that is true for many of the die-hard Kelly sympathisers, the ones who post offensive things like "A good cop is a dead cop", ( on Jack Petersons FB page yesterday) though thankfully they're not all like that. When I challenged a Beechworth Tour Guide recently on FB about his claim that Nicholson visited a deserted hut, eventually he changed his mind so theres hope for some of them.<br /><br />But if nobody points out these errors then how can ordinary people be blamed for believing the rubbish that authors like Jack Peterson and Brad Webb promote on their FB pages and their deceptive little books. People who write rubbish about Ned Kelly while claiming to be historians and experts need to be exposed for the shonky they are. Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14104818673788818740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-4322042486781199472018-01-12T14:21:40.956+11:002018-01-12T14:21:40.956+11:00Face facts, Dee, they're too dumb to know and ...Face facts, Dee, they're too dumb to know and too thick to careHamish Bnoreply@blogger.com