tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post4300367856453499129..comments2024-01-19T04:32:25.260+11:00Comments on Ned Kelly : Death of the Legend: The Last Outlaw : Part OneDeehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14104818673788818740noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-49378513648194741592017-12-21T17:34:46.920+11:002017-12-21T17:34:46.920+11:00Very poor post Anon. Lots of errors here. You m...Very poor post Anon. Lots of errors here. You mean Kate instead of Grace. And U don't mean Kate either as Fitzpatrick did not rape or attempt to rape. It is a great mini series though. I love it. Mark Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162533821220639075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-17838553253455965002017-12-21T15:20:46.917+11:002017-12-21T15:20:46.917+11:00I just wasted 30 seconds of my life reading an obv... I just wasted 30 seconds of my life reading an obviously biased opinion piece, with little-to-no actual research appearing in it. You call sympathisers of the Kelly family 'Kellyphiles' Dee, which detracts from your post and reinforces your bias.<br />Had you even the slightest regard for the facts, you would have seen the bullying, persecution and violence that the so-called Victorian Police force of the time engaged in against Irish Catholic selectors and their families in the North-East.<br />From the day he was born, Ned's family were accused of crimes they never committed, and never suspected of crimes they did commit. <br />But if you look closely at the exact moment where the Kelly Outbreak started, look no further than the attempted rape of his sister Grace, at the hands of Constable Fitzpatrick. It's widely assumed as fact that Ned assaulted Fitzpatrick and shot him (on the testimony of Fitzpatrick himself, a well known liar and drunkard), whereas Ned himself claimed to have 200 miles away in NSW. <br />His mother Ellen was charged with attempted murder, when the more likely story is that she was defending her daughter. <br />Her sentence of three years hard labour, Judge Redmond Barry's boast that he would have given Ned 18 years jail had he been present (with no evidence in the slightest to suggest he was even there, let alone tried to murder Fitzpatrick) and the fact that two groups of police set out from Mansfield in 1878 with bodybags strapped to their horses can be directly linked to the events at Stringybark Creek. <br />To describe the events of that day as cold-blooded murder is a disgraceful distortion of the facts, and an incredible disregard of the treatment suffered by the selectors and cocky farmers of the timeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-62724284934077902052015-09-30T14:27:39.690+10:002015-09-30T14:27:39.690+10:00Nice comment Bill and thanks for the link! Its ver...Nice comment Bill and thanks for the link! Its very clear in my own mind, and I have previously tried to make it clear on this Blog that there are indeed TWO Ned Kellys - the actual historical Ned, and the mythical Ned. The problem we have in Australia is that Kelly sympathisers refuse to recognise this truth and insist that the mythical Ned and the actual historical Ned are one and the same thing.They then aggressively defend this position and deny and ignore and attempt to hide or suppress any fact that contradicts this delusional belief of theirs. What needs to happen is for everyone to accept that the myth has developed around the historical Ned for the sort of cultural reasons that this Professor is talking about, rather than because the myth resembled reality. In fact in the Myth he is almost unrecognisably different, and is a far more attractive human being than he ever was when alive.Deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14104818673788818740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-50167393795926104872015-09-30T09:47:48.426+10:002015-09-30T09:47:48.426+10:00Was The Last Outlaw Chloroform in film?
Perhaps no...Was The Last Outlaw Chloroform in film?<br />Perhaps no but now it seems very slow. At the time it was the TV viewing highlight of the week.<br />I could see where Sid's Ether drinking slant was going,<br />but thought Dee would enjoy this one -<br /><br />The Politics of Myth' <br />Question,<br /><br />" What could Queen Elizabeth I, Jeanne d'Arc and Merlin have in common? Or Ned Kelly, King Arthur and Sherlock Holmes? What about Guinevere, William Shakespeare and Robin Hood? Such intriguing combinations might mystify – or they might draw us to them with the gravity of their reputations.<br /><br />Author Stephen Knight, they are all being kept alive, especially in 21st century film and television.<br />Knight, who has worked as professor of literature here and in Britain, and is now an honorary research professor at the University of Melbourne, recently finished his new book, The Politics of Myth. In it he explains how these figures are used to dramatise issues of social importance and to interpret, explore and understand the complexities of the modern world.<br /><br />We need them, he maintains – not just for the entertainment they might provide, but for some deeper psychological sustenance. As he says, "myth" has two meanings facing in opposite directions – we can say something is a myth in order to trivialise it, or we can describe some person or achievement as mythic in order to suggest remarkable quality, or levels of excellence.<br /><br />It is this second meaning Knight uses when describing those above, most of whom he has researched throughout his career.<br /><br />"We certainly use mythological figures as languages to make things coherent for ourselves," Knight says. "Even though, in all the figures I have chosen, different periods read them quite differently. It is really quite striking, even startling, to see how suddenly a character can, after 30 to 40 years, seem quite different to what he or she had been before."<br /><br />Read the whole article click the link above, or cut and past this one<br /><br />http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/what-do-princess-diana-ned-kelly-and-merlin-have-in-common-youd-be-surprised-20150923-gjphv9.html <br /><br />PS : Seems the Prof Knight liked my paper titled 'The Politics of Ned' <br />Bill- weblink - The Politics of Myth- book by Prof Stephen Knighthttp://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/what-do-princess-diana-ned-kelly-and-merlin-have-in-common-youd-be-surprised-20150923-gjphv9.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-3472506980954940822015-09-30T00:45:49.172+10:002015-09-30T00:45:49.172+10:00It is said old Irish towns could often be smelled ...It is said old Irish towns could often be smelled long before arriving there. The smell wasn't chloroform but ether.<br /><br />"Ether drinking apparently became relatively common because in a short period, shops in many Irish towns were selling ether in a manner similar to taverns selling alcholic beverages" <br /><br />[http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(11)63779-8/pdf] <br /><br />In 1877 Ned thought he had been "hexed" with marijuana in Benalla. Who knows.Sid Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-12033316366887792712015-09-30T00:05:27.540+10:002015-09-30T00:05:27.540+10:00Ned's Jerilderie letter is a big part of the p...Ned's Jerilderie letter is a big part of the problem. Jones and many authors treated it as gospel. Most of Ned's excuses and postulations are patently wrong. His misusage of George King after his sudden and strange disappearance is a giant historical question mark. King was unable to reply to Ned's calumnies.Hal Brownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-36928224392557827352015-09-27T21:22:31.689+10:002015-09-27T21:22:31.689+10:00I'm still recovering from the dismal Heath Led...I'm still recovering from the dismal Heath Ledger "Ned Kelly" who also had a personality bypass. Playing a national icon must be very dauntting.Murphnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2798312463652733622.post-63177272109545985042015-09-27T21:02:26.893+10:002015-09-27T21:02:26.893+10:00That was a really deadly review, Dee.
TV in 1980 ...That was a really deadly review, Dee.<br /><br />TV in 1980 was boring, but at least this wasn't accompanied by mega-blocks of saturation funeral, Jeep and gambling ads that have made TV today almost unwatchable.<br /><br />Producers then and today would argue that adding and subtracting to the script for dramatic effect is always OK. But it sounds deceptive to have asserted “All Characters events names dates and places in this series are drawn directly from fact.”<br /><br />I hope the 'fact' that Ned played VFL footie for Williamstown when there was somehow included. Probably not. That is another modern invention.<br /><br />Channel Nine is producing another Kelly series soon. A horrible thought! Drew Easdownnoreply@blogger.com